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Topic: Booting on Dell Lattitude D820

I want to partition a  new external harddrive .

I downloaded the latest Ubuntu-14.04.1Desktop-i386  burned the DVD & used it as a LiveCD
Ubuntu boots well , using the early boot F12 button on my Dell Latitude
It comes with GParted 0.18.0 which seems to be broken

I was happy to discover GParted LiveCd which is much smaller and can be burned on, a CD
the 32 bit found  is 0.18.0-1 (for my laptop)
the 64 bit version is 0.21.0-1
I downloaded & burned them both.
On both laptops (my wife has a 64 bit PC) Windows appears
- as well when booting normally, the CD being already in the drive
- as when using the boot device selection possibility F12 in my Dell & Esc on my wife's laptop and select the CD drive
- as when i turn on the power and quickly (what is quickly) insert the CD-ROM disc in the CD-ROM tray (tested only for 32 laptop)
( method described in http://gparted.org/display-doc.php?name … ve-manual)

I changed the boot order so as to have the CD drive first, saved & continued=>Windows shows up/ -- closed Windows again
- power on / => Windows starts up, not GParted
Maybe i overlooked one hint or instruction on the GParted site, but i doubt i.
Why does Ubuntu boots & not Gparted?
What can i check ?

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Re: Booting on Dell Lattitude D820

JosDuchIt wrote:

Why does Ubuntu boots & not Gparted?
What can i check ?

It is possible that Secure Boot is enabled on the computer.  In order to boot GParted Live, Secure Boot must be disabled.  The secure boot/trusted boot option should be available in your computer's UEFI settings.  You might try searching the Internet for "Disable Windows Secure Boot".

Also, GParted Live 0.21.0-1 is available for both 32 bit and 64 bit on the GParted Download page.

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gedakc wrote:

It is possible that Secure Boot is enabled on the computer.  In order to boot GParted Live, Secure Boot must be disabled.  The secure boot/trusted boot option should be available in your computer's UEFI settings.

Windows/Panther/setupact.log
i find Code:Callback_BootEnvironmentDetect: Detected boot environment: BIOS

gedakc wrote:

Also, GParted Live 0.21.0-1 is available for both 32 bit and 64 bit on the GParted Download page.

used & burned that version again (used it before i think)
method 1  no use of F2 or F12 keys, insert CD after power up
method 2  no use of F2 or F12 keys, boot CD present
method 3  hit F12 key, select CD/DVD/CD-RW Drive as boot device,  CD present
method 4  insert CD after power up, hit F12 key, select CD/DVD/CD-RW Drive as boot device
In all these cases Windows starts up rather immeadiately after last action mentionrf

Opening the CD under windows/Explorer, i see  9 folders: .disk, boot, casper, dists, install, isolinux, pics, pool, preseed and files autorun md5sum, Readme.diskdefines & wubi

Anything else i can check?

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Re: Booting on Dell Lattitude D820

Did you disable Secure Boot?

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Re: Booting on Dell Lattitude D820

gedakc wrote:

Did you disable Secure Boot?

I understood this is an UEFI option, mine has BIOS firmware

Chacking anyway


Result: don't find "secure boot" in the firmware settings
TPM Security was set to OFF
TPM Activation was set to Deactivate

which is the closest thing to "secure boot" i find here
Under Windows search: No hits for "secure boot" neither for UEFI

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Re: Booting on Dell Lattitude D820

You are correct that BIOS does not use Secure Boot.

Since GParted Live is based on Debian Live, you might try booting from the most recent version of Debian Live.  If the Debian Live image boots, then that might indicate something we can fix in GParted.  If Debian Live does not boot, then that might indicate a problem upstream.

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gedakc wrote:

You are correct that BIOS does not use Secure Boot.

Since GParted Live is based on Debian Live, you might try booting from the most recent version of Debian Live.  If the Debian Live image boots, then that might indicate something we can fix in GParted.  If Debian Live does not boot, then that might indicate a problem upstream.

I was able to burn the 0.21.0-1, it was a problem with the DVD burner or its software.

I got an error when trying Define partitions on my new external harddsik of 500 GB .I did chose for an Amig RDB & chose NTFS as file system

I got gparted_detaols.htm as follows

Parted 0.21.0 --enable-online-resize
Libparted 3.2
Create Primary Partition #1 (ntfs, 97.66 GiB) on /dev/sdb  00:00:01    ( ERROR )
    
create empty partition  00:00:01    ( ERROR )
libparted messages    ( INFO )
    
Unable to satisfy all constraints on the partition.

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Re: Booting on Dell Lattitude D820

I suspect that there is a problem with the partition table.  You can learn more about the MSDOS partition table at the following link:
How-to Fix Invalid MSDOS Partition Tables

JosDuchIt wrote:

Unable to satisfy all constraints on the partition.

Based on the error message, it sounds like there might be a problem with a logical partition not having at least 2 unallocated sectors in front of it.

Would you be able to provide the output from the following command?

sudo fdisk -l -u

where one of the options is a lower case "L" and not the number one.

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Re: Booting on Dell Lattitude D820

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I suspect that there is a problem with the partition table.  You can learn more about the MSDOS partition table at the following link:
How-to Fix Invalid MSDOS Partition Tables

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Unable to satisfy all constraints on the partition.


I did chose  an Amiga partition table.  Does the above concerning MSDOS tables apply ?

Based on the error message, it sounds like there might be a problem with a logical partition not having at least 2 unallocated sectors in front of it.

Would you be able to provide the output from the following command?

sudo fdisk -l -u

where one of the options is a lower case "L" and not the number one.

Disk /dev/sdb: 465.8 GiB, 500107862016 bytes, 381552 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk /de/loop0: 186.3 MiB, 195354624 bytes, 381552 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes

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Re: Booting on Dell Lattitude D820

From the fdisk output it would appear there is no MSDOS partition table.

Is the above all of the output from fdisk?

If the partition table is GPT, you might try the following:

sudo gdisk -l /path-to-disk-device

where one of the options is a lower case "L" and not the number one.
   and /path-to-disk-device is something like /dev/sda

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Re: Booting on Dell Lattitude D820

gedakc wrote:

From the fdisk output it would appear there is no MSDOS partition table.

indeed i did chose an amiga partition table.
It appears when i open the device information windo
Model: Toshiba External USB3.0
Size: 465.76 GiB
Path: /dev/sdb

Partition table:  amiga
Heads:             255
Sector/track :   63
Cylinders:         60801
Totalsectors:    976773168
Sector size :     512

gedakc wrote:

Is the above all of the output from fdisk?

It is all that concerns /dev/sdb/

gedakc wrote:

If the partition table is GPT, you might try the following:

sudo gdisk -l /path-to-disk-device

As it is not but amiga, what can i safely use ?

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Re: Booting on Dell Lattitude D820

As far as I know, the amiga partition scheme is only useful for AmigaOS. 

If you plan to use GNU/Linux or Windows on the computer, then you will need to create a GPT or MSDOS partition table.