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Topic: basic question

new user trying to partition drive for XP, currently have only vista installed,
I now have 0.3.4-11 on cd, it boots up, doesn't seem to do quite what instructions said.

have a choice of dev/hda or dev/sda, (hda is small, 7 gigsroughly) 
I can't just right-click and resize like instructions said.
It needs a disklabel, it says, but warns that I'll delete everyting in the partition if I add disklabel.

Am I in danger of deleting my vista installation at all?

I wonder if I need to use a different from default startup when booting.

I notice messages, one flashes by saying initialisation failed at one point, and then various red messages later that I don't have time to read.

I'm using a fujitsu-siemens laptop.
I expect I can work it out by trial and error if necessary, but I don't want to risk deleting my OS.

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Re: basic question

Hi!

0.3.4-11 is a bit outdated - you shoud first try one of the current "stable" (0.3.7-7) or "testing" (0.3.8-1) Live CDs. Since there's developmemnt not only in GParted, but also in the underlying Linux system on the live media, you may get rid of some of your problems simply by using a recent version.

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Re: basic question

Be careful. Changing or adding a "disklabel" in 0.3.4-11 means deleting the entire hard drive structure (the actual partition table included). Don't do it if you have already a working drive. This is just for new empty drives.

I don't understand well what you write about /dev/hda or /dev/sda. Do you have 2 hard drives ?

In any case, I agree that it would be better to try with a recent version.

(Topic moved to the live media section)

*** It is highly recommended to backup any important files before doing resize/move operations. ***

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Hi,

BE CAREFUL ! There are a lot of risks you have to know , if you want to install WinXP secondary on a working VISTA machine. Without exact knowledge of the present partition scheme, there is no advice possible ! Think of recovery partitions, hidden/ diagnostic programs or "closed-lid" operation systems for media, wlan or so on a laptop.

Generally you should use VISTA's own partition manager to shrink its partition from the end, thus gaining the space for the second system (Win XP) behind, which should also be partitioned and formatted by VISTA, even if it gets reformatted later. It's not left to you, how much space you get: VISTA "grants" it, because it does not move its system data, which is spread over its partition right from its installation , and the first found block from the rear is the stop point. DO NOT FORGET TO BOOT VISTA AFTER THESE ACTIONS, so that it is able to take notice of the changes and "settles" its filesystem, BEFORE YOU CONTINUE !

It is strongly adviseable to backup the MBR and all PBRs. Whenever possible keep the partitioning scheme between the MBR and the VISTA PBR untouched ! You should know, that there are programs on the VISTA installation CD/DVD, which can restore a corrupted boot configuration, but its always better, you don't need them. For the installation of WinXP, you have to have a primary (bootable) partition, but it is possible to move it in a certain stage of the process on another (yet extended !) partition. "NTLDR","boot.ini" and "ntdetect.com" are in an early stage copied BY YOU to the (bootable) root folder of the VISTA partition and automatically integrated by its "bootmgr" (syntax of "boot.ini" must be familiar / lines adapted!). If there are already three primary partitions used by the manufacturers "shipped" installation, and you intend to install logical drives in an extended partition for XP, you have to temporarily install XP on a second HDD or a big USB-Stick (yes, that works with some precautions !),  then to interrupt the process at a given point (you can set a parameter for that) and to copy all files manually to the planned final location (as does every OEM). There you resume the installation by booting via VISTA. If there is a spare free primary partition, you should "disguise" the Vista partition as a non bootable Linux partition by the filesystem ID in MBR, activate the new XP partition and start the installation, stopping at the same point as above. Then "reanimate"  and reactivate VISTA, copy XPs boot files(s.above) to the VISTA root folder and continue by booting. NOTE, that you ALWAYS have to change "boot.ini"-lines before !

If you want to create further logical drives in an extended partition with its working XP system, feel free to use "GParted" for that purpose, but better do NOT move WinXP any more.

Bye
cmdr

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Re: basic question

In addition to the above advices, sometimes the vista resize tool doesn't permit to shrink a partition to the size we want. In this case, we can proceed by steps, i.e. some steps of 10GiB rather than a single step of 40 or 50 GiB, rebooting after each step and checking that the system keeps the new settings. Sometimes, disabling any running sotfware like disk compressing tools, on line defragmenters or the vitrual memory (swap) helps. This is valid in the case of GParted resizing too.

*** It is highly recommended to backup any important files before doing resize/move operations. ***